tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6055504461966994259.post5460736329244963911..comments2023-04-03T08:40:25.868-07:00Comments on Ms. Leclaire's 6th Hour Honors American Lit Blog: Live Blogging: The Awakening, Chapters 24-29Kristin Lhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15076857976818237278noreply@blogger.comBlogger97125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6055504461966994259.post-90721793710384873742008-03-12T08:45:00.000-07:002008-03-12T08:45:00.000-07:00I was also gone. I'll answer the same questions al...I was also gone. I'll answer the same questions alex answered. <BR/><BR/>I agree that Edna regrets kissing Arobin, but she regrets it because Robert comes back finally. I think she maybe feels like she betrayed him although they never had a defined relationship. It's interesting just as Maria said that she didn't feel guilty for cheating on her husband; she felt bad for cheating on Robert. <BR/><BR/>I think she is only beginning to understand what love is. She's still very juvenile when it comes to love. That's illustrated especially when she describes why she loves Robert. It definitely sounds like a "puppy love" rather than actual, genuine love. <BR/><BR/>I didn't quite catch that she committed suicide at the end. That just must have been a mental thing on my part. That's definitely a disappointing end to a dramatic, grand awakening. She never grasped the concept of love. I think it shows that by committing suicide she was just thinking of herself and simply decided to give up if she couldn't have Robert. She needed to grow up, and honestly, Robert deserves a more mature woman than her.jessie whttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15565734956591441380noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6055504461966994259.post-18583452493493223552008-03-09T20:55:00.000-07:002008-03-09T20:55:00.000-07:00I wasn't here for this day, and Kakos, you said th...I wasn't here for this day, and Kakos, you said that I should come back and answer all these questions/<BR/><BR/>I think that Edna feels regret for kissing Arobin because of her self-convinced love for Robert, which I don't think he returns. He is an interesting character, in that he spends each summer with a separate person, and when he tells Edna that this summer may be different, it seems like filler for the novel. But then he acts on nothing. She feels physically drawn to Arobin, and that is why she kisses him. She has convinced herself that she loves Robert and that he loves her, but somewhere she knows to doubt herself.<BR/><BR/>At this point, I don't think that Edna understands nor feels any desire to understand love, because she thinks she has the subject down pat. To me, someone who claims to understand love has no grasp of the concept at all. Which means all you hopeless romantics out there are screwed. Love is to be appreciated, not conquered.<BR/><BR/>Like Ms. Kakos, I have lost respect for Edna as the novel progresses. Her maturity level has dwindled as her so called Awakening has flourished. And this just leads up to her suicide? How weak.Alex_Manninghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09420943890085509393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6055504461966994259.post-67250694587435142122008-03-09T19:40:00.000-07:002008-03-09T19:40:00.000-07:00I think that because the whole book was about Edna...I think that because the whole book was about Edna finding her "wings" of awakening, Chopin used the bird imagry to illustrate that. The birds used in the beginning were in cages, but as the story went on and Edna discovered more and more liberty, the birds started to be wild ones in nature.<BR/><BR/>I don't think that Edna really knew what true love was, all she knew was the freedom of choosing who she wanted and what she wanted to do. Maybe that was what she fell in love with, and the fact that she could jump from man to man shows us that it wasn't truely love for Robert himself.<BR/><BR/>Like Maddy said, Leonce just says that Edna is sick, not in love with another man. I think this is because a sickness is a lot easier to cure and explain in society than the reality. I related this to The Yellow Wallpaper because, in that story, the woman's husband used her "sickness" to explain every problem she had until she finally crashed in on herself. Edna wasn't at the point of oppression that that lady was, but she was on her way.<BR/><BR/>One thing I thought was interesting was the Edna didn't feel guilty that she was cheating on her husband--only that she was cheating on Robert. I wonder if maybe this was because she loved the idea of being able to love Robert, but not Robert himself.<BR/><BR/>However, I think Robert truely did love Edna. He left because it would be bad for her to keep on becoming more and more free with him, and maybe by leaving, he hoped that she would return back to her normal life. It's a little ironic how his leaving did exacly the opposite of what he might have wanted it to, and he sure was shocked when he came back and saw the new, awakened Edna.<BR/><BR/>THANKS FOR THE PIE MS. KAKOS!! :)krumphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06172800181209023872noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6055504461966994259.post-67387162353343881712008-03-04T15:45:00.000-08:002008-03-04T15:45:00.000-08:00I think that Edna said that she loved Robert out l...I think that Edna said that she loved Robert out loud because she needed to hear it herself. She needed to remind herself that, although he has been gone awhile, she still loves him.<BR/>She feels bad about kissing Arobin because I guess that she sort of realizes that he is like her "rebound guy". After Robert leaves, she uses him for attention. She realizes that and feels ashamed of herself.<BR/>I think that Leonce does not realize this because he does not realize that it is possible that Edna could have feelings for someone else. He also has not been spending very much time with her so he does not realize that she is straying away from him.Hannah Shttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15570271842483355621noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6055504461966994259.post-6294346408510299852008-03-04T13:15:00.001-08:002008-03-04T13:15:00.001-08:00uh, birds, like flying, like escape.uh, birds, like flying, like escape.car_l_e_y_benzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05256415669244765039noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6055504461966994259.post-13834712330424351532008-03-04T13:15:00.000-08:002008-03-04T13:15:00.000-08:00Dev-I don't think that Edna feels bad about kissin...Dev-<BR/>I don't think that Edna feels bad about kissing Arobin, because she wouldn't have kissed him if she knew she was going to feel bad.kaytlinrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04329601989280137589noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6055504461966994259.post-23930534725462700482008-03-04T13:14:00.001-08:002008-03-04T13:14:00.001-08:00I DONT THINK ROBERT LOVES HER! IF HE DID HE WOULD ...I DONT THINK ROBERT LOVES HER! IF HE DID HE WOULD TELL HER< OR ASK HER HOW HER HOME LIFE IS< OR WHAT WOULD MAKE HER TRULY HAPPY!!@car_l_e_y_benzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05256415669244765039noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6055504461966994259.post-44784076388545368112008-03-04T13:14:00.000-08:002008-03-04T13:14:00.000-08:00What is the significance with all of these differe...What is the significance with all of these different birds?jessie whttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15565734956591441380noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6055504461966994259.post-1624479718011308962008-03-04T13:13:00.002-08:002008-03-04T13:13:00.002-08:00tinam reiz.i liked that part to, i thnk she knows ...tina<BR/><BR/>m reiz.<BR/>i liked that part to, i thnk she knows edna is loosing control...spiraling in a way, and shes curious to see if she can recover after, or will become to consumedcar_l_e_y_benzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05256415669244765039noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6055504461966994259.post-2649598861484591662008-03-04T13:13:00.001-08:002008-03-04T13:13:00.001-08:00Brynn--Did he leave her cause he was bored, or did...Brynn--<BR/>Did he leave her cause he was bored, or did he do it to figure out if he truly loves her?shaunamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14221275608741523659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6055504461966994259.post-59703134517292890652008-03-04T13:13:00.000-08:002008-03-04T13:13:00.000-08:00Maddy,I dont know if Edna will share her feelings ...Maddy,<BR/>I dont know if Edna will share her feelings with Robert. Because if you do share your feeling there is always that scared feeling because you are not sure if they share the same feelings. I also think that Robert has a general feeling that Edna has read the letter.endsleyehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03113332404329465567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6055504461966994259.post-10232971584550772912008-03-04T13:12:00.003-08:002008-03-04T13:12:00.003-08:00Emily- yes I do think he will come back, but I thi...Emily- yes I do think he will come back, but I think it will be sort of like Enchanted and it won't end her problems, maybe it will even start more.maddyghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10360728882774447194noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6055504461966994259.post-58157882593140389952008-03-04T13:12:00.002-08:002008-03-04T13:12:00.002-08:00brynn.thanks.atleast one comment that isent a hope...brynn.<BR/><BR/><BR/>thanks.<BR/><BR/><BR/>atleast one comment that isent a hopeless romantic "o he jus didnt want to hurt her, he loves her!"<BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/>eck.car_l_e_y_benzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05256415669244765039noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6055504461966994259.post-25405487006839225042008-03-04T13:12:00.001-08:002008-03-04T13:12:00.001-08:00Emily--I think that if Robert ever comes back, it ...Emily--<BR/>I think that if Robert ever comes back, it will prove that she truly loves her. But does she truly want him to come back? Or does she only want lust, not love?shaunamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14221275608741523659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6055504461966994259.post-15407123960041273302008-03-04T13:12:00.000-08:002008-03-04T13:12:00.000-08:00saram- yea I agree I studied Freudian and I almost...saram- yea I agree I studied Freudian and I almost Think that with the awakening the id or sexual part of the brain was awakened while all the other women in soceity keep their id undercontrol or suppressed becasue it is proper and part of soceity's standard.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6055504461966994259.post-84049407065140434932008-03-04T13:11:00.001-08:002008-03-04T13:11:00.001-08:00Kristen speaks words of wisdom.which reminded me o...Kristen speaks words of wisdom.<BR/><BR/>which reminded me of an interesting part I wanted to talk about.<BR/><BR/>What is with the part where M. Reisz feels her shoulder blades to check the strength of her wings?Tina Lhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00260979285901608139noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6055504461966994259.post-70563845944916507552008-03-04T13:11:00.000-08:002008-03-04T13:11:00.000-08:00Carley- No I don't think Robert left because her f...Carley- No I don't think Robert left because her felt threatened, but rather because he got bored with Edna.brynnhhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12799250680527922078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6055504461966994259.post-90539822829861041762008-03-04T13:10:00.002-08:002008-03-04T13:10:00.002-08:00clewis, I think that Robert knew that there was so...clewis, <BR/>I think that Robert knew that there was something that was growing between him and Edna and i think he wanted to try to save some pain by not telling her that he was leaving. Also it might have been harder for him to leave if they had a chance to talk about it.endsleyehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03113332404329465567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6055504461966994259.post-40445446193368878962008-03-04T13:10:00.001-08:002008-03-04T13:10:00.001-08:00sarami think she a horn dog because shes never bee...saram<BR/><BR/><BR/>i think she a horn dog because shes never been in lust before. it seems all femine ideas can revert back to women taking on male qualites.car_l_e_y_benzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05256415669244765039noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6055504461966994259.post-54735366562380244552008-03-04T13:10:00.000-08:002008-03-04T13:10:00.000-08:00Even though Collin's comment was gross, he makes a...Even though Collin's comment was gross, he makes a sort of good point. Does Edna love at all because we're not totally, completely for sure that she even loves Robert? Does her Dad have something to do with her lack of love?maddyghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10360728882774447194noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6055504461966994259.post-193845325050997222008-03-04T13:09:00.001-08:002008-03-04T13:09:00.001-08:00maddy-- Do you think Robert will ever come back?maddy-- Do you think Robert will ever come back?emilyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02367112521489044261noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6055504461966994259.post-9183593713189906122008-03-04T13:09:00.000-08:002008-03-04T13:09:00.000-08:00everyone,ever think robert left because he is afra...everyone,<BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/>ever think robert left because he is afraid or leonce?<BR/>is leonce a hot shot in town?car_l_e_y_benzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05256415669244765039noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6055504461966994259.post-44904843621974587582008-03-04T13:08:00.001-08:002008-03-04T13:08:00.001-08:00Maddy,Of course Leonce is not going to acknowledge...Maddy,<BR/>Of course Leonce is not going to acknowledge the idea of Edna having another man. If someone had a boyfriend or girlfriend you are not going to want to even think of the possibility of them having someone else. I think her being sick is the most rational answer for Leonce to think of.endsleyehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03113332404329465567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6055504461966994259.post-53900526601362093542008-03-04T13:08:00.000-08:002008-03-04T13:08:00.000-08:00Shauna.That's a REALLY good point. It seems like o...Shauna.<BR/>That's a REALLY good point. It seems like one of her masculine qualities is how she only wants lust. Nothing against guys, but stereotypes are usually showing how girls care about feelings and love and boys just kind of want to 'get some' haha. So maybe that's one of her more masculine qualities that's affecting her life.saramhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00730266739766483455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6055504461966994259.post-23699487957128153092008-03-04T13:07:00.003-08:002008-03-04T13:07:00.003-08:00Maddy-I think that it's very hard for her to tell ...Maddy-<BR/>I think that it's very hard for her to tell him her feelings, but at this point she has done other things that are crazy and daring, but I think she will tell him.clewishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12359934658989306043noreply@blogger.com